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- Sat May 16, 2015 9:07 pm
- Forum: Theology/Bible
- Topic: Matthew Vines' God and the Gay Christian
- Replies: 9
- Views: 20386
Re: Matthew Vines' God and the Gay Christian
People tolerate divorce by way of a sort of Protestant equivalent of "economia" that the Orthodox practice (grace or leniency). But of course such consideration for gays are usually drawing the line... my criticism of economia is that it's often done for cultural reasons rather than the genuine spir...
- Sat May 16, 2015 5:51 pm
- Forum: Theology/Bible
- Topic: Matthew Vines' God and the Gay Christian
- Replies: 9
- Views: 20386
Matthew Vines' God and the Gay Christian
Has anyone actually read this book? I watched his presentation and read a few a counter-argument against it by Robert Gagnon, who is one of the leading New Testament scholars from the Reformed/Lutheran tradition. I have to admit, both arguments were very good and its easy to see how reasonable peopl...
- Sat May 16, 2015 5:30 pm
- Forum: Theology/Bible
- Topic: Is inclusivism just wishful thinking?
- Replies: 35
- Views: 69377
Re: Is inclusivism just wishful thinking?
There is a Sufi saying "You want everybody to go to heaven? Be careful you yourself do not go to hell". All I can say is that Jesus is my savior and my Lord. I do not say this in an abstract theoretical manner, I say it from experience- I know what evil and hell must be like. I know what it is like ...
- Sat May 16, 2015 5:21 pm
- Forum: Theology/Bible
- Topic: Review of 'Christ and Horro rs' for holy Saturday
- Replies: 6
- Views: 12521
Re: Review of 'Christ and Horro rs' for holy Saturday
Popular piety has given us a string of requirements that aren't in the bible. Jesus has to have suffered more than anyone ever did becuase popular piety seeks to make us love him more by building it up that way. It's enough that he makes a statement of solidarity and creates the basis for atonement...
- Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:56 pm
- Forum: Theology/Bible
- Topic: Is inclusivism just wishful thinking?
- Replies: 35
- Views: 69377
Re: Is inclusivism just wishful thinking?
depends upon the extent of the fear. There's a guy posting here recently who is really prevented from trusting God because of his fear that God s mean. I think if he experienced the reality of God he would not have that fear. I think that's a case of where the Lutheran concept of "Promise" must com...
- Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:42 pm
- Forum: Theology/Bible
- Topic: Is inclusivism just wishful thinking?
- Replies: 35
- Views: 69377
Re: Is inclusivism just wishful thinking?
To add more... if you fear hell, this is actually proof that God loves you. Just like a parent warning a child about looking both ways before crossing the street, God warns us about the dangers to our soul because they are real. So, fearing hell is not all that bad. It's just a sign you are waking u...
- Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:20 pm
- Forum: Theology/Bible
- Topic: Is inclusivism just wishful thinking?
- Replies: 35
- Views: 69377
Re: Is inclusivism just wishful thinking?
You can be a Christian and fear Hell too- we don't deserve heaven merely for being born into a Christian family or any other reasons why one person might be atheist and another might be a Christian. God is under no obligation to reward a Christian having a dead faith with eternal life. I go to an Ol...
- Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:28 pm
- Forum: Adventure of Faith (Religion/Spirituality)
- Topic: Ground of Being is the Source of Conscouisness
- Replies: 16
- Views: 18070
Re: Ground of Being is the Source of Conscouisness
I won't comment on Tillich himself, but alot of his fans seem to be functional atheists who deny things like miracles in the usual sense. I'm hardly a biblicist or fundamentalist, but I find people like the retired Bishop John Shelby Spong, a big fan of tillich, disgusting in his philosophical naivi...
- Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:14 pm
- Forum: Adventure of Faith (Religion/Spirituality)
- Topic: Christmas and the Crucified God
- Replies: 2
- Views: 4595
Re: Christmas and the Crucified God
Having become acquainted with Christianity through the East, rather than the West... I guess I don't necessarily focus on Christmas in light of the Cross exclusively. Maybe the Protestants are so used to the theologizing of Christian faith, that it is not always apparrent how shocking the Christmas ...
- Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:59 am
- Forum: Theology/Bible
- Topic: Therotical posotion on Resurrection
- Replies: 8
- Views: 15183
Re: Therotical posotion on Resurrection
Meta... I don't think I see Jesus appearances as disembodied, so much as Jesus appearances serve as signs pointing to a deeper reality. We are used to thinking of reality as a duality between spirit and matter, and I believe things like Jesus resurrection appearances point to an underlying unity. In...