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by Robin Yergenson
Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:53 pm
Forum: Adventure of Faith (Religion/Spirituality)
Topic: Objective morality
Replies: 159
Views: 35780

Re: Objective morality

Hi Met, Shanghai has been interesting but so hot and muggy. You say, Moral action - "right and wrong" - should apply equally to everyone, no? So, I might agree because I'm a reasonably comfortable Western person, but I wonder if that's always the case, harmonious action being in our own best interes...
by Robin Yergenson
Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:55 am
Forum: Adventure of Faith (Religion/Spirituality)
Topic: Objective morality
Replies: 159
Views: 35780

Re: Objective morality

Hi runamokmonk, I had said, “I am not telling you what your deepest values should be. I am telling you what your deepest value in fact is. I am stating facts regarding what is of greatest benefit to you as an organism whether you agree or not. Disagreeing with facts is the very definition of error. ...
by Robin Yergenson
Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:38 am
Forum: Adventure of Faith (Religion/Spirituality)
Topic: Objective morality
Replies: 159
Views: 35780

Re: Objective morality

Hi Metacrock, I had said, 12. Given our lack of omniscience, we typically have to base choices and actions on our greatest probability for obtaining benefit. Harmonious rights reciprocity is one. 13. It follows then that in a social context, we ought to act in harmonious ways and we ought not act in...
by Robin Yergenson
Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:09 am
Forum: Adventure of Faith (Religion/Spirituality)
Topic: Objective morality
Replies: 159
Views: 35780

Re: Objective morality

Hi Miles, I’m visiting Shanghai for the first time following a week in Kawasaki, Japan. A coworker who lives here took me out to see the sights yesterday. I was so drenched in sweat after just seeing the Pudong area that we had to come back to the hotel to change before continuing to the Puxi area. ...
by Robin Yergenson
Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:39 am
Forum: Adventure of Faith (Religion/Spirituality)
Topic: Objective morality
Replies: 159
Views: 35780

Re: Objective morality

Hello to met coming from Shanghai (I’m here on business), I had said, 12. Given our lack of omniscience, we typically have to base choices and actions on our greatest probability for obtaining benefit. Harmonious rights reciprocity is one. 13. It follows then that in a social context, we ought to ac...
by Robin Yergenson
Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:19 pm
Forum: Adventure of Faith (Religion/Spirituality)
Topic: Objective morality
Replies: 159
Views: 35780

Re: Objective morality

Hi runamokmonk, You say, You are telling me what my deepest values should be. You have used the term skyhook, by telling me what my highest values ought to be, are you being a skyhook to me? No. I am not telling you what your deepest values should be. I am telling you what your deepest value in fact...
by Robin Yergenson
Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:32 pm
Forum: Adventure of Faith (Religion/Spirituality)
Topic: Objective morality
Replies: 159
Views: 35780

Re: Objective morality

Hi runamokmonk, I appreciate your quick response. I had said, “As long as objective values with respect to the valuer are the basis for guiding the valuer’s choices and actions, in general the life of the valuer, living and thriving, is going to be at bottom (when the valuer ceases to live, the valu...
by Robin Yergenson
Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:19 pm
Forum: Adventure of Faith (Religion/Spirituality)
Topic: Objective morality
Replies: 159
Views: 35780

Re: Objective morality

Hi Miles, Thanks for the quick response. You say, The thing is, Rob, is that I agree with those principles in general. It appeals to the aristotlean ethicist in me. Does that mean that you agree that the oughts of point 3 follow from the points preceding it? If not why not? And you say, What I was t...
by Robin Yergenson
Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:31 pm
Forum: Adventure of Faith (Religion/Spirituality)
Topic: Objective morality
Replies: 159
Views: 35780

Re: Objective morality

Hi guys, I’m afraid my schedule prevents me from keeping up with such a fast paced conversation. I don’t see that any of you have attempted to address my three claims. Metacrock, rather than attempt to show the error in them, you map my claims to genetics and determinism. I am not appealing to eithe...
by Robin Yergenson
Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:43 pm
Forum: Adventure of Faith (Religion/Spirituality)
Topic: Objective morality
Replies: 159
Views: 35780

Re: Objective morality

Hi Miles, I had claimed, 1. It is a fact that, at least generally speaking, the propensity to flourish is integral to our nature as an organism qua organism. 2. It is a fact that, at least generally speaking, as rational beings, we stand to benefit or to suffer loss by believing, choosing, and actin...