Why the antiwar/peace movement is self-defeating

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Intersesting point by Paul Craig Roberts. Do you agree or disagree?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e23498.htm

Another problem that the 9/11 Truth Movement faces is that their natural allies, those who oppose the Bush/Obama wars and the internet sites that the antiwar movement maintains, are fearful of being branded traitorous and anti-American. It is hard enough to oppose a war against those the US government has successfully demonized. Antiwar sites believe that if they permit 9/11 to be questioned, it would brand them as "terrorist sympathizers" and discredit their opposition to the war. An exception is Information Clearing House. Antiwar sites do not realize that, by accepting the 9/11 explanation, they have undermined their own opposition to the war. Once you accept that Muslim terrorists did it, it is difficult to oppose punishing them for the event. In recent months, important antiwar sites, such as antiwar.com, have had difficulty with their fundraising, with their fundraising campaigns going on far longer than previously. They do not understand that if you grant the government its premise for war, it is impossible to oppose the war.

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Ah huh.


Some interesting points by Richard Rubenstein, a conflict resolution professor at Washington’s George Mason University:

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/artic ... ty-protest

Americans are still haunted by the events of Sept. 11, 2001, Rubenstein says, and that’s why the current anti-war movement is a pale imitation of the widespread, well-attended demonstrations that took place during the Vietnam War in the 1960s and early ‘70s.

“The power of 9-11 is still with us, and that was a major trauma for a country that had convinced itself it was invulnerable to that sort of attack. It was incredibly shocking,” he said Thursday.

“That trauma is still active and when things can be linked to it, as the Iraq war has been and now the Afghan war, even more so, it keeps the fears alive.”

[Metacrock]

all anti-war movements are self defeating.

First becuase they are trying to end the reason for their existence. Secondly becuase they are willing to accept great harm to get their voice heard. Thirdly because they polarize the public. But those of us who take part in them feel a compulsion to act.

I think these arguments are not at all a draw back to being in a movement. Especially not the 1.

Anti-war movements I have been in

Vietnam
Nicaragua contra war
Guatemala
El Salvador
Gulf war

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all anti-war movements are self defeating.

First becuase they are trying to end the reason for their existence. Secondly becuase they are willing to accept great harm to get their voice heard. Thirdly because they polarize the public. But those of us who take part in them feel a compulsion to act.

I think these arguments are not at all a draw back to being in a movement. Especially not the 1.

Anti-war movements I have been in

Vietnam
Nicaragua contra war
Guatemala
El Salvador
Gulf war

I salute you for your history of anti-war activism, Metacrock! I'm just wondering if you have anything to add to the comments made by Roberts and/or Rubenstein.

[Metacrock]

all anti-war movements are self defeating.

First becuase they are trying to end the reason for their existence. Secondly becuase they are willing to accept great harm to get their voice heard. Thirdly because they polarize the public. But those of us who take part in them feel a compulsion to act.

I think these arguments are not at all a draw back to being in a movement. Especially not the 1.

Anti-war movements I have been in

Vietnam
Nicaragua contra war
Guatemala
El Salvador
Gulf war

I salute you for your history of anti-war activism, Metacrock! I'm just wondering if you have anything to add to the comments made by Roberts and/or Rubenstein.

to tell you the truth I"m overwhelmed. I know I'm getting old, I lost my career, I have some major health problems on the horizon so I just feel it's time O focus on my true interest. If I was made to do anything it has to be theology.

I am at my personal Kyros. it's time to do it.

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I am at my personal Kyros. it's time to do it.

I hear ya, Meta.