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something that makes me sick

Postby Metacrock on Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:35 am

this was linked for me by Wordgazer on my blog:

Broken World, Current Events — May 26, 2011 2:45 pm
Ayn Rand vs. Jesus of Nazareth
Posted by Rachel Johnson
It’s a tried and true adage that politics makes for strange bedfellows. Often this can lead to creative collaborations and innovative problem solving that is laudable (and too rare) in politics. But there’s a sordid side to this reality as well, when strange bedfellows cross over into unholy alliances, and intellectual honesty and moral integrity are sacrificed for consolidation of power. That is what is happening right now within certain circles in the GOP with the resurgence in popularity of atheist philosopher and patron saint of selfishness Ayn Rand.

The American Values Network (AVN) just released a video highlighting Rand’s teachings and the influence she has had on prominent Republican leaders and conservative pundits. Congressman Paul Ryan (R-WI), Chairman of House Budget Committee and author of the Republican FY2012 budget, cites Rand as the reason he got in to politics and has said that hers is the “kind of thinking that is sorely needed right now.” Sen. Rand Paul frequently cites Rand’s novels in committee hearings. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) has called Atlas Shrugged his “foundation book.” Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, and Fox News personalities have all also heaped on the praise for her. Here is the problem. For years GOP leaders have purposefully invoked the language of faith and moral values to justify their policies and court religious voters. Ayn Rand’s philosophy stands in direct contradiction to those values and the teachings of Jesus.

In an attempt to hold together the disparate constituencies of social conservative Christians and libertarian Tea Partiers, Paul Ryan and other Republican leaders have attempted to create an unholy trinity of Ayn Rand, Jesus Christ, and the GOP. But, as the classic Sesame Street song goes, “One of these things is not like the other. One of these things just doesn’t belong.” Nothing about the philosophy of Ayn Rand and the teaching of Jesus Christ is like the other. So the GOP must decide – who doesn’t belong? They can’t have both.


Evangelicals quoting Rand!

read the rest...
http://recoveringevangelical.com/2011/05/aynrand/
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Re: something that makes me sick

Postby mdsimpson92 on Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:13 am

What's even sadder is that there are so many choices that have similar thoughts on economics and society that are so much more respectable. Like Hayek, Friedman, or Nozick. Hell, Nozick actually agreed with a lot of what rand said (libertarianism not so much the selfish) and still found her justifications nonsensical.

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Re: something that makes me sick

Postby Metacrock on Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:45 pm

mdsimpson92 wrote:What's even sadder is that there are so many choices that have similar thoughts on economics and society that are so much more respectable. Like Hayek, Friedman, or Nozick. Hell, Nozick actually agreed with a lot of what rand said (libertarianism not so much the selfish) and still found her justifications nonsensical.

My party needs an injection of moderates.


yes those are not unknown ideas. they are basically just good old fashioned greed.
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Re: something that makes me sick

Postby mdsimpson92 on Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:52 pm

Metacrock wrote:
mdsimpson92 wrote:What's even sadder is that there are so many choices that have similar thoughts on economics and society that are so much more respectable. Like Hayek, Friedman, or Nozick. Hell, Nozick actually agreed with a lot of what rand said (libertarianism not so much the selfish) and still found her justifications nonsensical.

My party needs an injection of moderates.


yes those are not unknown ideas. they are basically just good old fashioned greed.


What the republican party, rand, or the other philosophers?
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Re: something that makes me sick

Postby Metacrock on Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:32 am

mdsimpson92 wrote:
Metacrock wrote:
mdsimpson92 wrote:What's even sadder is that there are so many choices that have similar thoughts on economics and society that are so much more respectable. Like Hayek, Friedman, or Nozick. Hell, Nozick actually agreed with a lot of what rand said (libertarianism not so much the selfish) and still found her justifications nonsensical.

My party needs an injection of moderates.


yes those are not unknown ideas. they are basically just good old fashioned greed.


What the republican party, rand, or the other philosophers?


I'm referring to the whole Rand nexus wherever it shows it's ugly head. which apparently now includes the religious right!
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Re: something that makes me sick

Postby mdsimpson92 on Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:29 pm

Well, it looks like Romney's going to win the nomination.
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Re: something that makes me sick

Postby Metacrock on Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:15 am

mdsimpson92 wrote:Well, it looks like Romney's going to win the nomination.



I predict so. Gingrich is now moving up front. It think each one of them will have his day. Each one will go through a period where they look best to the Reps but in the end they all be picked off my negatives. I think Romney has the fewest negatives.

I'm just hoping he will also have less of what it takes to energize his base.
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Re: something that makes me sick

Postby mdsimpson92 on Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:13 am

Metacrock wrote:
mdsimpson92 wrote:Well, it looks like Romney's going to win the nomination.



I predict so. Gingrich is now moving up front. It think each one of them will have his day. Each one will go through a period where they look best to the Reps but in the end they all be picked off my negatives. I think Romney has the fewest negatives.

I'm just hoping he will also have less of what it takes to energize his base.


Well, that is kind of the reason everyone else is coming up (except Huntsman who actually is fully moderate), because they are trying too find one with the qualifications. But then they all make these stupid gaffes. Its actually gold for Jon Stewart.
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Re: something that makes me sick

Postby KR Wordgazer on Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:24 am

I can't find one Republican candidate in this mix that I feel willing to vote for in the primary. Time to go Independent, I'm thinking.
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Re: something that makes me sick

Postby Metacrock on Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:18 am

KR Wordgazer wrote:I can't find one Republican candidate in this mix that I feel willing to vote for in the primary. Time to go Independent, I'm thinking.


what??! vote for Obama! he has not let us down. He was ganged upon by ruthless creeps who didn't let him do his stuff.
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