http://www.economist.com/node/21564556
Food for thought.
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Re: True Progressivism
that's a good idea but not sure how it can be carried without radical surgery.
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Re: True Progressivism
There's a reason they call themselves the radical center.
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Back in the olden days (the 70s) we had lots of studied in debate about invent is not detoured by closing capital gains. Why do rich guys do with tax breaks? Romney wants us to think they run right and create emptily by starting small businesses and hiring deserving people. Reagan tax breaks were spent on non labor intensive investments in oil. The whole steel industry failed to re-tool and brought on the rust belt by this method.
Fighting inequality is not bad for the economy. It's really just a question of who wants to get rich or richer. Those who have the money define as "wrecking the economy" any move that redistributes the wealth so that they don't get as gig chunk as they used to.
They don't measure a wrecked economy by kids getting fed, they measure it by their own personal power. They get more powerful? Yes, ok so the economy is good.
Fighting inequality is not bad for the economy. It's really just a question of who wants to get rich or richer. Those who have the money define as "wrecking the economy" any move that redistributes the wealth so that they don't get as gig chunk as they used to.
They don't measure a wrecked economy by kids getting fed, they measure it by their own personal power. They get more powerful? Yes, ok so the economy is good.
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Re: True Progressivism
Have you heard of the new fracking industry growing in the US?Metacrock wrote:Back in the olden days (the 70s) we had lots of studied in debate about invent is not detoured by closing capital gains. Why do rich guys do with tax breaks? Romney wants us to think they run right and create emptily by starting small businesses and hiring deserving people. Reagan tax breaks were spent on non labor intensive investments in oil. The whole steel industry failed to re-tool and brought on the rust belt by this method.
Fighting inequality is not bad for the economy. It's really just a question of who wants to get rich or richer. Those who have the money define as "wrecking the economy" any move that redistributes the wealth so that they don't get as gig chunk as they used to.
They don't measure a wrecked economy by kids getting fed, they measure it by their own personal power. They get more powerful? Yes, ok so the economy is good.
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well there's soemthing called "fracking" that has to do with drilling for natural gas. is that it?mdsimpson92 wrote:Have you heard of the new fracking industry growing in the US?Metacrock wrote:Back in the olden days (the 70s) we had lots of studied in debate about invent is not detoured by closing capital gains. Why do rich guys do with tax breaks? Romney wants us to think they run right and create emptily by starting small businesses and hiring deserving people. Reagan tax breaks were spent on non labor intensive investments in oil. The whole steel industry failed to re-tool and brought on the rust belt by this method.
Fighting inequality is not bad for the economy. It's really just a question of who wants to get rich or richer. Those who have the money define as "wrecking the economy" any move that redistributes the wealth so that they don't get as gig chunk as they used to.
They don't measure a wrecked economy by kids getting fed, they measure it by their own personal power. They get more powerful? Yes, ok so the economy is good.
if you are going to say that certain industry were born of tax incentives that does not follow that closing certain tax incentives will mean they stop investing. They will invest in other things. WE can control what those things are by opening up other opportunities. But we can reduce the amount by taxing them more.
they are not going to stop investing. they still want to get richer they still want money they will find other investments. Besides we don't have to close capital gains to tax the rich.I'm sure there are other ways to do it.
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Nah, well ok maybe a little given the deductions many of those groups get. But in general they would just raise prices as a result, and nobody wants that. What I have heard is that the fraking process will actually make the US the number 1 producer of natural gas in the world, as well as a net producer. Weird.Metacrock wrote: well there's soemthing called "fracking" that has to do with drilling for natural gas. is that it?
if you are going to say that certain industry were born of tax incentives that does not follow that closing certain tax incentives will mean they stop investing. They will invest in other things. WE can control what those things are by opening up other opportunities. But we can reduce the amount by taxing them more.
they are not going to stop investing. they still want to get richer they still want money they will find other investments. Besides we don't have to close capital gains to tax the rich.I'm sure there are other ways to do it.
I did hear that Boehner has caved and is willing to accept more taxes on the rich, though preferably through cutting loopholes and removing deductions. Another GOP senator has turned as well, approving of a higher tax rate. Republicans are splitting. Sanity might be returning to my party.
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Re: True Progressivism
Nah, well ok maybe a little given the deductions many of those groups get. But in general they would just raise prices as a result, and nobody wants that. What I have heard is that the fraking process will actually make the US the number 1 producer of natural gas in the world, as well as a net producer. Weird.Metacrock wrote: well there's soemthing called "fracking" that has to do with drilling for natural gas. is that it?
if you are going to say that certain industry were born of tax incentives that does not follow that closing certain tax incentives will mean they stop investing. They will invest in other things. WE can control what those things are by opening up other opportunities. But we can reduce the amount by taxing them more.
they are not going to stop investing. they still want to get richer they still want money they will find other investments. Besides we don't have to close capital gains to tax the rich.I'm sure there are other ways to do it.
I did hear that Boehner has caved and is willing to accept more taxes on the rich, though preferably through cutting loopholes and removing deductions. Another GOP senator has turned as well, approving of a higher tax rate. Republicans are splitting. Sanity might be returning to my party.
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Spike Spiegel: Yeah... just a dream...
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