Putin calling them out of Hitler's play book?
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:07 pm
Firsts he hosts the Olympics, then he invades territory supposedly to save ethnic relatives.
Christian thought in the 21st century
Actually its a bit weirder. He claims that the soldiers in Crimea aren't Russian, but rather Crimean militia. Even though the vehicles have Russian military plates and when asked the soldiers say they are Russian.Metacrock wrote:Firsts he hosts the Olympics, then he invades territory supposedly to save ethnic relatives.
mdsimpson92 wrote:Actually its a bit weirder. He claims that the soldiers in Crimea aren't Russian, but rather Crimean militia. Even though the vehicles have Russian military plates and when asked the soldiers say they are Russian.Metacrock wrote:Firsts he hosts the Olympics, then he invades territory supposedly to save ethnic relatives.
yes that's true the Reagan youth has that sense. But somehow they didn't connect it to Reagan. I think that's because my movie that first gave me the sense "hey the world really could end becuase these assholes will use these weapons" was Dr. Strangelove. Stanly Kubrick. So my nuclear annihilation movie said "isn't the whole thing stupid? both sides are ran by idiots."Magritte wrote:As a Gen-Xer it's pretty familiar territory to me, too. It was the worst during Reagan's first term with all those terrible movies like The Day After and Testament burned into my brain. Years later I saw Threads, an English movie about nuclear war that was even worse. Thank goodness I didn't see it when I was younger. I probably would have hung myself.
I don't think people born during or after Reagan understand how the spectre of total nuclear annihilation and human extinction was a constant daily companion back then.
Dr. Strangelove was totally contrary to the sensibilities of the 80s, even the 70s except maybe up to 72. More than just political and more than just the entertainment industry. It had to the sensibility of the people. I wonder if a lot of the people who loved that movie didn't die in Vietnam. A lot of them were burned out on drugs by the late 70s. a lot of them were inheriting Daddy's business and ready to think "grown up" by the 80s.Magritte wrote:That's true, there was no sense of irony in The Day After. Maybe a touch of it in Testament, I'd have to watch it again.
Threads though, is very darkly ironic but not humorous. The main idea in it was that people are suffering unimaginably, and why would we do this to ourselves? There's no narrative about good guys and bad guys. But again, this was English.
In general there wasn't much in American mainstream media in the way of satirical self-examination in the 80s. After the 70s the major studios clamped down really hard on their creativity and it became impossible for something like Strangelove to have gotten any kind of budget. Directors and writers were allowed to be "weird and wacky" though and that's how a few subversive things snuck in here and there.
Do you remember the TV miniseries Amerika, with Kris Kristofferson? The Soviets invade and take over, and it's completely retarded. It's the Reagan era in a nutshell.