do you guys think this is as evil as I?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:18 pm
here's a post on carm I think this is the most evil thing I've seen on a message board.
By Brentgomaes
http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthread.p ... ost4239930
the whole deal:
what would stop the next guy from pushing it that far?
By Brentgomaes
http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthread.p ... ost4239930
the whole deal:
suggest the models we consult are those bases upon which we evaluate the worth of other sentient beings that have feelings and feel pain. Often, we slaughter such beings for reasons having nothing to do with safety or social order.
Do we slaughter cows because they commit horrible crimes, or to make sure we have available the option of grabbing something quick at McDonald's when we decide we'd rather not cook tonight? That's called killing a sentient being for reasons other than justice, and we do it by the thousands every single day.
Do we euthanize domesticated cats and dogs by the thousands every day for reasons having nothing to do with safety and social order? Yes.
Once again, you will have to demonstrate what it is about humans that makes them more worthy to live than cows, before you insist that treating human repeat violent offenders as cattle is an unacceptable immorality.
My logic would justify killing humans merely for the sake of convenience, but I don't need to push it that far. If we kill certain sentient beings purely for convenience and see no immorality, we have no reason to believe that killing other sentient beings where they have already proven their danger to others, is immoral.
Hence, the basis for evaluating human worth should be similar to basis upon which we value or devalue the lives of other sentient beings. If killing them would create a greater good than evil, kill them. What constitutes a greater good should be evaluated by the same criteria we use to evaluate whether killing other sentient beings produces a greater good.
When we slaughter cows for fast food hamburgers, are we creating a greater good justifying said slaughter?
When we approve of the local pet shelter euthanizing unclaimed cats and dogs, are we creating a greater good justifying said killings?
When we execute the person who is doing time for their second violent offense conviction, are we creating a greater good justifying said execution?
You cannot criticize my model if you have no defense for your own current preferred model. If you cannot explain why humans should be spared the death penalty more than other sentient beings we routinely kill, then you are without evidence that humans "deserve" life more than other lower animals. Once again, at the end of the day, the anti-death penalty crowd has nothing more the unexplained non-defensible non-answer "but they're human!?!?!", as if this was supposed to be some show stopper halting us intellectuals dead in our tracks. I think not.
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what would stop the next guy from pushing it that far?