"I implore Euodia and Syntyche"

[2thePoint]

If speaking the truth about a dangerous organization which exhibits none of the fruit of the Spirit is considered out of line, then I will respect the sensitivities here and not post further.

[Metacrock]

Hi there. I hang around the Women In Ministry blog and saw a link to this board, so here I am.

Now that CARM allows non-members to view their board, I decided to take a peek. Glad I did it before lunch.

I believe that CARMite clan could be the formation of a new cult, seriously. No thinking by the subhumans (female), and groom the males for eventual godhood. Spew hateful venom at all who dare to disagree. Turn the females into useful Stepford Wives who will serve the godmen and cannibalize their own kind.

And that's as kind as I can be to them.

ahahaha that's really right on. I've been on carm since 1998. I mostly hang out on the atheist board, giving the atheists what for.But when I do go venture into the wacy world of CARM Christians, I am often sickened. saddened.

I once had a big falling out with Matt in which the gloves were off. I put a bunch of things on my blog about it. But I behaved like a jerk, but then he was so insulting and took everything I said out of context and twisted it around.

anyway, yea I agree.

[2thePoint]

So tell me, what is acceptable here in terms of "tone"? Was I out of line?

[ZAROVE]

You wherent out of lien and arre now overreacting.

I merely suggested that we modersate our temperments, so as not to allow anger to consume us.

Matt Slick and his fllowing may at times Ire us,, and cause rash reactions, but we soudl elt them go as soon as posisble, and attatck no strong emotion to it. Focus on their errors, not their personalities.


Anger can be understandable, if imediately caused, but no need o hold onto it.

[2thePoint]

You wherent out of lien and arre now overreacting.

I merely suggested that we modersate our temperments, so as not to allow anger to consume us.

Matt Slick and his fllowing may at times Ire us,, and cause rash reactions, but we soudl elt them go as soon as posisble, and attatck no strong emotion to it. Focus on their errors, not their personalities.


Anger can be understandable, if imediately caused, but no need o hold onto it.

There was no anger in my post, only an assessment of their teachings. How am I now "overreacting"? I asked an honest question.

Zarove, you're judging my motives and seeing emotions where there aren't any. Please do not focus on me but only on what I actually write. If you disagree with my assessment of CARM's teachings, then it would be more helpful to just provide data that would show why my assessment is inaccurate. But if you will be continuing to "shoot the messenger" instead of the message, I cannot remain here.

[KR Wordgazer]

I think there's a difference between focusing on personalities and focusing on the tone of a particular group. I didn't see 2thePoint say anything about the particular personalities of any people in that group. 2thePoint was talking about the general tendencies of CARM as a group, without focusing on individuals. I didn't see any difference between what she (I assume "she") said and what has been said by many people about the militant atheist boards. In fact, militants of any persuasion have certain characteristics in common, and it isn't hard to see CARM as being militant in general outlook.

As long as we're focusing on the forum itself, not on particular people, I don't see a problem.

[2thePoint]

Yes, I'm a she.

Thanks for the clarification too! It's a good thing to know before I get more involved here.

[Metacrock]

So tell me, what is acceptable here in terms of "tone"? Was I out of line?

be intersting, be nice. those are the two rules. These are my boards, not Zor's. although he's a good buddy and supporter.

But he has a good point. we don't do personal attacks on anyone. just keep it on the issues. And yet a certain degree of venting when one is treated badly is expected. this should be a place we can come for solace.

[Metacrock]

I think there's a difference between focusing on personalities and focusing on the tone of a particular group. I didn't see 2thePoint say anything about the particular personalities of any people in that group. 2thePoint was talking about the general tendencies of CARM as a group, without focusing on individuals. I didn't see any difference between what she (I assume "she") said and what has been said by many people about the militant atheist boards. In fact, militants of any persuasion have certain characteristics in common, and it isn't hard to see CARM as being militant in general outlook.

As long as we're focusing on the forum itself, not on particular people, I don't see a problem.

good points


hey don't worry about it 2nd. glad to have you here, welcome. please stick around.

[2thePoint]

hey don't worry about it 2nd. glad to have you here, welcome. please stick around.

Tanx Metacrock, I'll do my best. Perhaps some background:

One of my pet peeves is when other believers just don't like my writing style. I'm "to the point", blunt, always looking for the bottom line. I focus on logical fallacies and challenge presuppositions, and it irritates people. But that's who I am, and I don't fit in well in most places because of it. I also use humor about serious things, not because I'm making light of them, but because it can be a quicker way to get a point across. Yes, I can be sarcastic, but I do try to restrain it. After all, Jesus and Paul used many of those things too, so it can't be that bad, right?

So I can get a little testy when someone tries to get me to re-word my posts in the way they personally would do it. I'm just not other people. That's how the Body of Christ should work: every part doing its own job and not telling the other parts how to do theirs. The trick is discerning between "a part doing its job" and sin. All I ask is a little slack, and I will do the same.