I am smart part II

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Re: I am smart part II

Post by Metacrock » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:25 am

Originally Posted by JoeyPFoxx View Post
carm 11/17/12

http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthread.p ... ost3643615
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So then, why give into it? He's baiting you. Why take the bait?

Honestly, I think backup is ignorant. He's intentionally provocative and from what I've seen, he loves the escalation. But he has you in a trap. You anticipate that he's going to be difficult so that you are provoking him as often as he provokes you.

Take a breath and let him show himself for who he really is.

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Re: I am smart part II

Post by Metacrock » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:27 pm

Metacrock wrote:Originally Posted by JoeyPFoxx View Post
carm 11/17/12

http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthread.p ... ost3643615
post 11


So then, why give into it? He's baiting you. Why take the bait?

Honestly, I think backup is ignorant. He's intentionally provocative and from what I've seen, he loves the escalation. But he has you in a trap. You anticipate that he's going to be difficult so that you are provoking him as often as he provokes you.

Take a breath and let him show himself for who he really is.

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same guy two days latter, noncrambulant idiot says "Metacrock has credibility?"

Originally Posted by JoeyPFoxx View Post
Based on what I know about him, yes he does.

He and I don't agree 100% about God, but that hasn't convinced him to flip out me. He hasn't insulted me, and I haven't insulted him. So, yeah, that's credibility.

What's yours?
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Re: I am smart part II

Post by Metacrock » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:11 pm

carm 12/14/12
stupid atheist post:
Originally Posted by Sylar View Post
We can break this into two conditionals. "g⊃□g" and "~g⊃□~g". The first conditional taken as true gives us three classes of worlds. The second conditional also gives us three classes of worlds. Taking both as true, we get 9 classes of worlds in which they are true. It turns out that 7 of the 9 classes of worlds are internally inconsistent, and as such aren't possible worlds. The remaining two classes of worlds (via S5's accessibility relation) send each other the requisite information for contradiction. This means that there is not even a single possible world in which "(g⊃□g)&(~g⊃□~g)" is true. Thus, not only is it the case that Metacrock's God doesn't exist, but it is also the case that it is necessarily the case that Metacrock's God doesn't exist.
Chatter comes to my defense:

Metacrock's assumptions are not inconsistent. They have infinitely many models. Here's a simple one: have exactly one possible world which accesses itself and let g hold at this world. Formally, that's a Kripke frame ({w}, {(w,w)}, w ⊧ g).

I don't know if you're mixing up Kripke frames and possible worlds, but your argument looks like nonsense.
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Re: I am smart part II

Post by Metacrock » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:44 pm

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Re: I am smart part II

Post by Metacrock » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:16 pm

Thread: Metacrock: Eucharist transubstantiation miracles

In spite of your typos..hahaha...you are an incredibly intelligent servant of our Lord, and I am certain that he is wll pleased with your ministry. God bless.
01-08-13 04:15 AM
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Thread: God = truth

Good OP, Tillich, the presup. of God is truth is the our standard, a benchmark,our rock.
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Thread: Theology: Always Archaic

Indeed. This poster knows nothing about modern theologies. The post to which you responded was a transparent attempt to save face. Sad.
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Re: I am smart part II

Post by Metacrock » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:20 am

Lntz on carm Jan 30 2013

Originally Posted by Lntz View Post
I haven't seen any of your 1v1 debates. Are they left public somewhere on this site?

I consider your responses often to useful - you know an awful lot more about general theology than I, and the names you mention often make for interesting reading.

Occasionally you let emotion cloud your responses, but we're all guilty of that.
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Re: I am smart part II

Post by Metacrock » Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:47 pm

comments from carm 4/7/13


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I LOVED The Man from Uncle!!!!!
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humar points
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Re: I am smart part II

Post by Metacrock » Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:16 am

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Re: I am smart part II

Post by Metacrock » Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:22 am

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Good turnaround on this thread... for every bad Christian poster, there's a bad non-Christian poster. btw, you don't deserve to be on a list with a pile of evangelical trolls.
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Re: I am smart part II

Post by Metacrock » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:07 am

11/13/13

Kfaftlos answering Trolala

Originally Posted by TraLaLa View Post
When people disagree with you, you say

"missing the point"
"not dealing with their work properly"
"didn't read the studies"
"you can't admit you are wrong"
" not a scholar"

....
Kraftlos

These are not arguments. They just tell us about you.

It is you that can't admit you are wrong or misspoke. This OP is a case in point.
Usually people dont properly address his arguments. It's not an evasion tactic. People refuse to read, he cant do much about that.

Though, i have to say that Royce probably makes the best effort of anyone to reply his posts in their entirety.
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