Arch-materialist, Churchland, now panpsychist?

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Re: Arch-materialist, Churchland, now panpsychist?

Post by fleetmouse » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:19 am

That article's a bit of an ax-grindey hit piece. Did she mean that individual neurons make decisions, that neurons collectively make decisions, or that neurons function something like logic gates in a network such that decisions are determined by neurons?

Pantheism - did she perhaps mean that she's a naturalistic pantheist?

And this - "On the surface, at least, her answer didn't seem to have much to do with the hard edge of materialistic brain science. It was soft, emotive and traditional" - that's just vile. Did he expect her to click and say "does not compute"? Asshole.

oh, this explains it, just googled the author - "He is best known as an award-winning writer on spirituality, ethics and diversity with the Vancouver Sun newspaper, in Vancouver, British Columbia. Recently, his work has come under criticism for being biased and mean-spirited, with his article reflecting on the passing of Christopher Hitchens containing nothing more than vitriolic attacks on Hitchens' most controversial remarks."

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Re: Arch-materialist, Churchland, now panpsychist?

Post by fleetmouse » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:20 am

mdsimpson92 wrote:So how would eliminative materialism work in panpsychism?
The most rudimentary level of consciousness would be nothing more than an entity's ability to be affected by its surroundings.

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Re: Arch-materialist, Churchland, now panpsychist?

Post by Metacrock » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:46 am

URBILD wrote:...and a Pantheist to boot?? :o :D :ugeek:

Famed eliminative materialist and hyper-reductionist now admits that..... :o ....... "neurons make decisions" ! :geek:

http://www.vancouversun.com/life/advoca ... story.html

I always suspected that sociobiology buys (aka evolutionary psychology) think of little men in the genes telling he brain what to think. I guess that goes for reductionists too.
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Re: Arch-materialist, Churchland, now panpsychist?

Post by URBILD » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:37 pm

mdsimpson92 wrote: So how would eliminative materialism work in panpsychism?
It wouldn't; the two are like cheese and chalk.

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Re: Arch-materialist, Churchland, now panpsychist?

Post by mdsimpson92 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:57 pm

URBILD wrote:
mdsimpson92 wrote: So how would eliminative materialism work in panpsychism?
It wouldn't; the two are like cheese and chalk.
Yeah, maybe in regular physicalism, but eliminative? I don't think so.
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Re: Arch-materialist, Churchland, now panpsychist?

Post by Metacrock » Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:38 pm

URBILD wrote:
mdsimpson92 wrote: So how would eliminative materialism work in panpsychism?
It wouldn't; the two are like cheese and chalk.
cheese and chalk. mmmmmmmmm :mrgreen:
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