NO I don't think so. It's a form of logic really. Not an interpersonal relationship becasue it applies to ideas not personalities.JasonPratt wrote:Even the other images you borrowed from the Bible are not abstractions like "dialectic", though.Metacrock wrote:God is so far above us we should try to think of God as the dialectic or something.
Besides, isn't dialectic a description of interpersonal relationship? {s!}
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O I'm from Texas, I'm sure I grew up with it.unred typo wrote:Are you ready for the po white, trailer trash, TV dinner version? Probably not… and it’s past my bed time… lucky you...
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Actually, I only have a nice user friendly synopsis of the trinity, if you’re interested. I’m still working out the goose bumps though.
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Not entirely sure how useful the analogy will be, then.Metacrock wrote:NO I don't think so. It's a form of logic really. Not an interpersonal relationship becasue it applies to ideas not personalities.JasonPratt wrote:Even the other images you borrowed from the Bible are not abstractions like "dialectic", though.Metacrock wrote:God is so far above us we should try to think of God as the dialectic or something.
Besides, isn't dialectic a description of interpersonal relationship? {s!}
Btw, remember how over on the Cadre backchannel I was griping about how even Christian theologians have a habit of treating God fundamentally as not being an interpersonal relationship?
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unred typo wrote:Actually, I only have a nice user friendly synopsis of the trinity, if you’re interested. I’m still working out the goose bumps though.
sure, that's what the board is here for!
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JasonPratt wrote:
Btw, remember how over on the Cadre backchannel I was griping about how even Christian theologians have a habit of treating God fundamentally as not being an interpersonal relationship?
It's a thorny problem. I feel that the parental love aspect of God is essential and really there. Yet I can't reduce God to the psychological dimensions of a human.
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Well, we were created in his image. Has to be some resemblance... or am I misunderstanding you?Metacrock wrote:JasonPratt wrote:
Btw, remember how over on the Cadre backchannel I was griping about how even Christian theologians have a habit of treating God fundamentally as not being an interpersonal relationship?
It's a thorny problem. I feel that the parental love aspect of God is essential and really there. Yet I can't reduce God to the psychological dimensions of a human.
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I think its that though we were made in God's image, Unred, we have a tendency to think of God as being in our image. We put God in a box; we limit Him to our conceptions of Him.
We are like God in certain ways, but God is beyond us, beyond our full grasp and understanding. Still, I think it pleases God when we meet Him according to our best understanding of Him-- as a child to a Father (or Mother, as some of the biblical imagery shows). In fact, Christ made it clear that that's the best way to approach God: as a child. That's the stance that gives us enough humility to understand that we don't fully understand.
If we are not to think of God as a Person, it's because He's more than a person, not less than a person.
We are like God in certain ways, but God is beyond us, beyond our full grasp and understanding. Still, I think it pleases God when we meet Him according to our best understanding of Him-- as a child to a Father (or Mother, as some of the biblical imagery shows). In fact, Christ made it clear that that's the best way to approach God: as a child. That's the stance that gives us enough humility to understand that we don't fully understand.
If we are not to think of God as a Person, it's because He's more than a person, not less than a person.
Wag more.
Bark less.
Bark less.
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unred typo wrote:Well, we were created in his image. Has to be some resemblance... or am I misunderstanding you?Metacrock wrote:JasonPratt wrote:
Btw, remember how over on the Cadre backchannel I was griping about how even Christian theologians have a habit of treating God fundamentally as not being an interpersonal relationship?
It's a thorny problem. I feel that the parental love aspect of God is essential and really there. Yet I can't reduce God to the psychological dimensions of a human.
I don't know. If you think I'm saying we can't communicate with God then you are misreading me. God can communicate with us. I agree, we are made in god's image, and to me that means consciousness, so there has to be a fit someplace.
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KR Wordgazer wrote:I think its that though we were made in God's image, Unred, we have a tendency to think of God as being in our image. We put God in a box; we limit Him to our conceptions of Him.
We are like God in certain ways, but God is beyond us, beyond our full grasp and understanding. Still, I think it pleases God when we meet Him according to our best understanding of Him-- as a child to a Father (or Mother, as some of the biblical imagery shows). In fact, Christ made it clear that that's the best way to approach God: as a child. That's the stance that gives us enough humility to understand that we don't fully understand.
If we are not to think of God as a Person, it's because He's more than a person, not less than a person.
well said Kristen. yes, that's what I'm saying too. I think we tend to religate God to being just a big guy, a big powerful version of us. What I see in common is the notion of consciousness itself. Not to say God is limited to our limits.
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